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    You may well have found good evidence backing your claim, but I categorically refuse to look at anything that could potentially start to undermine my irrational beliefs. Instead, I will retreat further into my shell by only recognizing Y as either a vowel or semi-vowel. The concept of Y as a consonant be banished!

    Call me obstinate, call me an ideologue, call me an obstinate ideologue, or call me a twat. You probably wouldn't be too far off with any of these characterizations, but one thing is for sure, you Y-Consonanters have had your day!

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    You can have fate on your side, but I have just stumbled upon this conclusive proof that Y is in fact a consonant: https://www.codewars.com/kata/5a19226646d843de9000007d

    Read it and weep, fellow Y consonant users have coalesced and produced this brilliant counter kata. I have also decided that the solution to this issue is for me to avoid all suspicious usage of Y as a "vowel" henceforth. I think you will find this response adequate in this regard, and I'm quite enjoying being forced to re-evaluate the words I use. Yet, a single perfect tear leaves its mark upon mine face as I see how beautiful the english language can be without this fake vowel. Perhaps this issue should be taken to a higher judicial level, and all Y vowel words must be purged from our lexicons. I shall not miss them.

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    Valiant you may be, but I'm afaid your cause is lost as I have destiny on my side seeing as it can be no coincidence that VICTORYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!! is spelled with a vowel Y

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    @196alex, you've crossed an over zealous English teacher, so you've found yourself on the business end of a pedant bomb. Hunker down...

    English/Americans are gonna be here going "why is y a vowel"

    I'm not sure you should lump Americans into this group... I've never had any qualms thinking of Y as a vowel, and actually have a harder time seeing it as a consonant. Probably because, even using the structural definition (i.e where the Y falls in a word), most occurences in English are categorized as vowels (I'm unaware of a definition which extends beyond mere assertion that has most English occurences of Y being categorized as a consonant).

    However, let's be honest, nobody cares about that dross... It's come down to a battle of whose schoolhouse rote will win the day. So, don't give up, and fight to the death we shall! Arbitrary definitions must be defended!

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    While your English credentials and provided reference are surely impeccable, what classifies Y alternately as a vowel and a consonant here is likely not a matter of English or game shows, rather a matter of phonology (i.e. how the sound is produced in your mouth). Basically, consonants show significant restriction of airflow by the tongue while vowels allow for free flowing airflow. In this light, classifying Y as a consonant could be seen as a bit dubious, since it generally is either a vowel or a semi-vowel.

    Small sample, but just for fun...

    Are we speaking english here? What do you mean how do I know it's sometimes a vowel and mostly a consonant? I'm english back to the damn romans invading britain, I barely speak a second language because I decided to learn german as a hobby. I might not be an english student, but I'm reasonably familiar with english as a language and the usage of letters. For example, in countdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOYv1qicEcc - Ignoring the 7 million to 1 odds of her spelling her name, note the Y comes from the consonants?

    Counts from your quote:

    Y as vowel = 3

    Y as consonant (semi-vowel) = 1

    Y as letter = 1

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    Your self-assurance is admirable. It is also unreasonable.

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    Appoved! Thanks

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    approved by someone

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    Julia fork switching to approximate equality with tolerance of 1e-6

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    @brodiemark I'm not sure if you're aware of this feature, but you can click the View Solution button under a user's message to see what code they last ran if you want to help debug. To actually see their code, I think you'll need two things:

    • To have completed the kata in the language the user is attempting
    • Have selected the language the user is attempting from the dropdown menu at the top of this page (as though you wanted to attempt that language)

    Since you've written all the translations (with the exception of Julia), you should be able to do this (1iekim is not using Julia). If you haven't selected the correct language in the dropdown menu, you'll see There is no solution to show.

    @1iekim This is why it's nice for users to specify what language they are attempting when asking for help, then those helping don't have to guess.

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