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    One of these ones where re-running the code with different random tests somehow passes, despite not making any changes to the code. Bizarre. EDIT my code was shite, got a cool new chunking one liner now.

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    Yep, lots of comments on this one. I answered the description requirements, then was quite confused as to why my code was failing... Finally look at the testcase answer and see it is radically different to the description output.... Not ideal. Sure you could argue I'm an idiot for not looking at the testcase, but surely it's bad writing to have an incorrect output example for the description?

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    Kinda dank compared to other 7 kyu's? Or maybe I'm being quite slow today. Okay now I consider it I think I'm very slow.

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    .find() has been added to my list of cool methods

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    Thank you for the clear, robust definition of consonants in this kata. It's a true relief to see this common-sense knowledge being passed on.

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    You can have fate on your side, but I have just stumbled upon this conclusive proof that Y is in fact a consonant: https://www.codewars.com/kata/5a19226646d843de9000007d

    Read it and weep, fellow Y consonant users have coalesced and produced this brilliant counter kata. I have also decided that the solution to this issue is for me to avoid all suspicious usage of Y as a "vowel" henceforth. I think you will find this response adequate in this regard, and I'm quite enjoying being forced to re-evaluate the words I use. Yet, a single perfect tear leaves its mark upon mine face as I see how beautiful the english language can be without this fake vowel. Perhaps this issue should be taken to a higher judicial level, and all Y vowel words must be purged from our lexicons. I shall not miss them.

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    Incredible thank you. Ultimately this is just ignorance of english on full display, but it's also true that we simply are not taught y as a vowel, so it's hard to shake that ingrained knowledge.

    Which is quite odd, why is y simply put in the consonant box? Why is this potentially a regional thing within england, if there are actually english teachers aware of this? Why is english in general so... English?

    Well, that's a problem for the linguists and english students. I'm either going to become "that guy" and start asking people to list all the vowels to say ACTUALLY, or I'll double down to spite the welsh specifically (despite quite liking wales).

    I'm doubling down. You yanks will never understand the rich culture that you abandoned, and we're never going forgive the loss of all that tea. To arms!

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    You still wanna stand on your perspective, that's fine. Let's just accept that both have some valid point and should stop debating about this. Different people comes from different cultures.

    No, we must argue about this irrelevance until the end of time itself. Y is never a vowel. You're all wrong.

    Just kidding, it might not have come across overly well but I did actually read that comment counting the number of "y-vowels". It's annoyingly correct ofc, if you think about the phonology then yes Y is technically a vowel in many english words.

    That doesn't mean I have to accept the technical correctness of it all, and certainly in the context of "What are the vowels in english?" If you said Y then most people will just laugh at you. And my comment saying that people will continue to complain is just an extension of that. I'm not wrong am I? English/Americans are gonna be here going "why is y a vowel" until either the kata changes or the author goes nuclear and decides to define every letter as a vowel or something. It's just a bit weird, all in all.

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    Counts from your quote:

    Y as vowel = 3

    Y as consonant (semi-vowel) = 1

    Y as letter = 1

    Hilarious response actually, top kek. Still utterly redundant in real life ofc, but this is one of those things which people would pull out as a "do you know" fact for sure. I still reject this formal definition of a vowel, since I still stand by the simple statement that y is not mostly a vowel. Kids are not taught aeiouy, it's aeiou and sometimes y. Unless you're welsh. And by that logic, I still complain that we should not be making kata with y defined as a vowel.

    The evidence undelying your assertion is lacking.

    I provided not just a game show tile, but THE origin of english culture and the FORMAL definition of vowels and consonants for at least two generations of british inbreeds such as myself. This revisionist definition based on phonology will not stand the test of countdown. The kata should be changed, and I have not changed my opinion on that. The hordes of complaints will only continue to rise mark my words.

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    How do you know?

    Are we speaking english here? What do you mean how do I know it's sometimes a vowel and mostly a consonant? I'm english back to the damn romans invading britain, I barely speak a second language because I decided to learn german as a hobby. I might not be an english student, but I'm reasonably familiar with english as a language and the usage of letters. For example, in countdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOYv1qicEcc - Ignoring the 7 million to 1 odds of her spelling her name, note the Y comes from the consonants?

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    Y is almost always a vowel, in fact, rarely is it used as a consonant

    This is simply incorrect. It is sometimes a vowel, and mostly a consonant. If you ask any english speaker to list the vowels, they are not going to say aeiouy. That's because it is an exception to the rule, and saying it is almost always a vowel is the most pedantic take you could possibly have.

    I hypy yyyr dyy 5 mynths ygy wys gyd ynd I hypy thys tyrns yyt ty ylsy by y gyd dyy fyr yy ynd yvyryyny ylsy.

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